Democrats in danger of losing the House

OK, I am not going to talk about Presidential candidates here because I know it will just lead to another useless arguement.  Instead, I want to turn to another issue of great importance that people in the liberal blogosphere are not paying nearly enough attention to.  That is the battle for control of the House.  This new Rasmussen poll shows Democrats clinging to a bare 44%-40% lead in the generic Congressional ballot.  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c ontent/politics/mood_of_america/congress ional_ballot/generic_congressional_ballo t

This small lead is all the more frightening due to the fact that this is the type of lead Democrats had in the 2004 election when they came out with only 202 House seats(Republicans had 232).  Democrats on these sites seem to be taking control of the House for granted.  If a Democrat is elected President, they are not only going to need to hold the House to get anything meaningful passed, but will also have to pick up an additional 15-20 seats.  

Our majority is held because of certain Democrats' ability to win Republicans leaning seats in the 2006 election.  These people cannot afford to have any higher Republican turnout or a sag in Democratic turnout if they are going to hold onto their seats.  What is even worse for Democrats is that a new poll says that Americans are blaming Congress for the economic troubles more than Bush.  http://nationaljournal.com/polltrack/

I really believe that we could lose the House in 2008 if we are focusing too much on the Presidential race.  Right now I can name several Democratic incumbents in grave danger of losing their seats.  They are:

Jerry McNerney(CA-11)
Tim Mahoney(FL-16)
Jim Marshall(GA-08)
John Yarmuth(KY-03)
Nancy Boyda(KS-02)
Tim Walz(MN-01)
Carol Shea-Porter(NH-01)
Kirsten Gillibrand(NY-20)
Melissa Bean(IL-08)
Harry Mitchell(AZ-05)
Gabby Giffords(AZ-08)
Nick Lampson(TX-22)
Ciro Rodriguez(TX-23)
Steve Kagen(WI-08)
Jason Altmire(PA-04)
Chris Carney(PA-10)
Paul Kanjorski(PA-11)
Baron Hill(IN-09)

Right there is about 20 seats that we could lose in 2008.  That would essentially wipe out our majority in the House.  



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WHAT??? (2.00 / 1)

Are you kidding me???

Look at the numbers. Look at the potential upticket numbers (even with unelectable Hillary upticket).

we'll EASILY win 15 seats. Even with Hillary upticket.

Do some math. Take a poli-sci class...


by mcdave on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 01:30:13 AM EST

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How do we do that?  We hold all of our incumbents and pick off 15 Republicans?


by Toddwell on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 01:33:32 AM EST
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Anything is possible this far out.  But look at the facts.  We have 1 competitive open seat, they have at least 10.  That's a huge built-in advantage.  Even if we lose some freshman in tough districts, we'll probably make that up in the open seats.

Plus, I take issue some on that list.  Tim Walz, Melissa Bean, Paul Kanjorski, Ciro Rodriguez, John Yarmuth and Giffords will more than likely get reelected. McNerney, Tim Mahoney, Jim Marshall and a few others could be very tough but there are plenty of Republican incumbents we can beat.  Not to mention the DCCC has a cash advantage and 2008 will be a Democratic year.  I bet we gain 7-15 seats.


by Chuckwalla on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 01:51:51 AM EST

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The recent issue of Rolling Stone (the one with Britney on the cover -- really sad) comments on the democrats and the anti war movement, how essentially, the democrats had no intention of ending the war, but were simply using it to pick up votes, ie "we really  want the war to end,  but Bush won't let us. Vote democratic. And send money."

A deliberate tactic, and pretty disgusting.

Serves 'em right, more hypocritical than the Republicans.

I've stopped giving money to all but the most honest Democrats, I hope we can really clean these meidocre morons out, Democrat and Republican, they, and the fat stupid little K-Streeters they rode in on.

WHY won't they end the war? WHY did they vote with the Republicans on FISA? What's the point of electing more Democrats, or Republicans, who are already bought, and sold?

I used to read Kos for news of upcoming democrats, as I don't trust his site, anymore, is there another advocating national races, dedicated to electing TRUE democrats?


by Marsha1 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:15:25 AM EST
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OpenLeft.com  They have a whole section of the site dedicated to taking out Bush Dog Dems.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:30:49 AM EST
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I give Baron Hill a 55% chance of winning his race.  His opponent (again) is Mike Sodrel, who held the seat for a term in 2004-2006.  He annoyed a lot of people for pretty much closing up his offices after the election he lost and not representing the district.

The more interesting one will be IN-07, which will be having a special election on March 11th to fill the seat of Julia Carson, who passed away.  Her grandson was slated for the Dems, and the Republican's have a really young go-getter running.    Andre Carson will probably win the special, but the General Election is going to be interesting.  Heck the primary is going to be interesting.

Interesting and Hoosier politics....this never happens! :)


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by FitnessNerd on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 02:14:45 AM EST

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On the races as a whole, the Republican's have so many incumbent retiring, that they are going to have enough trouble retaining the those seats, not to mention working competitive races.  They're having major trouble raising money, too, and there is rumblings of a scandal brewing with the money they have raised.

The bottom line is if this was not a presidential year, the Democrats would probably be facing the possibility of losing seats.  The fact is they have not accomplished all that much after being handed a pretty sizable mandate in 2006.  Bush, a president with approval ratings in the 30s the last two years, has still managed to accomplish most of what he wanted to get done.  Nancy Pelosi is damn lucky the presidential race is eating up a lot of the media attention...


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by FitnessNerd on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 02:19:07 AM EST

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Uh, no.  Gallup's polling released yesterday, which I think pushes leaners, had the generic Congressional ballot at 55% Democratic, 41% Republican.  

I'm more interested in the remaining 4% than the fact that the center 10% will, given the choice this far out, always claim to be neutral to pollsters.  Everyone wants to know how they lean, not what they are doing: we all know they are nice people who will make their definite decisions very late when they "have all the information" or whatever it is they claim they need.


by killjoy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:19 AM EST

Forget about Rasmussen... (none / 0)

I don't trust their polls in general. I wouldn't read too much into it.

It's true that any time you have a lot of freshmen, you're going to have vulnerabilities. But the Republicans have what is it--29 retiring members, many in competitive districts? We'll be fine.


by OrangeFur on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 02:36:45 AM EST

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30 if you include Gilchrest, who was an anti-war moderate in MD who was just primaried in favor of a psychopath wingnut.  Someone needs to let the wingnuts in on a secret - you don't pimary moderates in opposing-party states in a Presidential year when your party is demoralized and your Congressional committee has a 6-1 cash on hand disadvantage.  That was probably the dumbest move of the election season so far.  Let's create another open seat race that we don't have the money to spend on in a state we're going to lose at the top of the ticket by 15 points!  Good going, guys...


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:35:48 AM EST
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More the reason why you vote Obama upticket ...


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 02:42:56 AM EST

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If Jim Marshall can't even stand with us on SCHIP, then I really question the point of holding that seat (provided he's the nominee in '08).

I tend to agree with the bulk of the posts here, that the danger to the Democratic majority in the House is not in great jeopardy.  We should continue playing offense.


Take out the trash. Down with Saxby Chambliss!
by CLLGADEM on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 05:37:13 AM EST

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NEVER EVER THINK THAT YOU HAVE IT IN THE BAG!!! Hubris will be our downfall.


Money Guy
by Money Guy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 06:55:55 AM EST

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This is just crazy talk...barring an improbable GOP Presidential landslide with long and well-tailored coattails, there is no chance of the Democrats losing the required number of seats.  Republican incumbents are retiring in their droves; they see the writing on the wall.  Looks like the first Pres-House-Senate trifecta for the Democrats since 1993-95.


President Barack Hussein Obama - sounds as good as President John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
by IrishObserver on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 08:06:20 AM EST

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The thing about McCain is that, even if he wins the White House, he is exactly the type of candidate that will NOT have long coattails.  He will get underwhelming support from the GOP base (that would presumably punch straight ticket GOP) and will try to win by dominating independents and disaffected Dems (if Hillary is the nominee).  These are EXACTLY the type of people that will be likely to split their ticket and vote McCain at the top and Dem down ticket.

Regardless of how difficult the Presidential struggle will be, McCain is the PERFECT GOP Presidential candidate for holding and even expanding the Dem House majority.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 10:40:04 AM EST
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